EPDM or Torch Down??

I am anything but a big box store, quality is our hallmark, but should I take a hit for also marrying that with qauntity? MY proof is spread out on buildings all over the Northeast. And in the countless awards and recognitions.

So back it up bigshot. What awards? What recognitions? (sic)>>>

They have been referenced here b4.

Do you even Roof Jed?>>>

suddenly I am proud and ashamed of being from Boston..... ironically...both at the same time.

I was trained by a German roofer that learned his trade while in some sort of war camp thing....kinda reminded me of a Schindler's list sort of thing. He wasn't trained in boom cranes, lulls, dumpsters, and gas engine powered ripping rigs. All of his tools came out of a small canvas bag that he carried like a army general wears his gold stars. Everything he needed to work with was in that bag, and he could do everything. My point is....his trade isn't in mass production, whip the crews , big box roofing....it was.... go find and fix this leak.....slate, copper, T&G,...and he had a niche. To talk to him today...at 82, he still resists the appeal of the new fangled rolled stuff that all the cowboy roofers are rolling out. Fortunately for him...the skills that he was trained in were still a commodity over here in the US. But there was and still is no quick fix for those services, face down , ass up roofing...says it all.

Despite that.....the total disrespect for your elders is something that I know for a fact, if your grandfather heard you talking that way to his mechanics.....would kick your ass all the way from Norfolk County Hospital to Ridge Arena and back. And as far as a one man band, trolling the high school parking lot looking for roofing help......you have NO room to talk...trust me... how do you think MAC Sr found me. It's nice to be the heir to the throne, but you've got some balls to belittle those that you feel are peasants.

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Builder, Respect has nothing to do with the amount of years one has survived on this planet. But rather what that person did with them.

And, if you read this thread, objectively, you will see that I only RESPONDED in kind, I will re read just to make sure, but I am fairly confident that all I did was state my position, and gave my reasons. And as I trust the thread will show, I was attacked, multiple times before I responded. I never put down Torch down, I just stated my belief on what was a better system. If you check you will no doubtly see that others, just put down me, and epdm.

GO check, I will too,>>>

They have been referenced here b4.

Do you even Roof Jed?

Yeah, every day. So it should'nt be a problem for you to reference them again, or find someone here who can recall seeing them............. unless of course you are lying. ..............not tellin' porkies again, are you little fella?>>>

Firestone - High five award Inner circle award Golden Q award just about every conceivable one they've got, most of these for 20 plus years in a row, ask Mike H about them, I think he sd they've at least got some "Q"s

Multiple Roofing advisory boards

First company To install 30x and 50x rolls of rubber

will that suffice? >>>

Yes, it is true...I remember when your Grandfather's company received those awards. Isn't that company still in business? I'm not sure that recognition like that is transferable down the line to every family member that decides to finally get into the business. Just ask the Cazeaults and the Raboins....

Macroof: [ RE: EPDM or Torch Down?? ] , Friday, March 27, 2009 @ 10:39 AM I am a : Roofer Vaa, I guess the saying is correct old dogs like you can't learn new tricks! You traveled the world, Like a roofing Caine, installing every type of system known. But yet you have seemingly ended up just a lonely one man, truck conglomerate (except when you have a "big" job, then you hang out at the local Junior high and get some talent)

I think the only thing you have learned in your 60 plus years is how to insult, and put down. Try and stay on topic in the future, if you can control yourself.

looks rather condescending to me....am I the only one that feels this way?

All us old Caine's travelling the world. making a living.....supporting our whiny assed, big mouth offsprings in the hope that some day, they won't have to become a lonely one-man truck conglomerate, but to use their education to do something more with their life than to aggravate the world on an international level because someone gave them a hat , a pencil, and a title to hang on their letterhead. >>>

So why the arrogance, insolense, and evidently insecure macroof when you appear here? Is it that in the company of roofers who quite possibly know a little more than you you feel threatened? Do you behave the same way when "advising"? Why the taunting trolllike behaviour you so like to use? Clearly the awards you so like to flaunt were not even earned by you but inherited. I predict you will crawl back into your hole now that another poster knows what you really are.............the same way roofguy did.>>>

No longer my Grandfathers company Builder, hasnt been for many years

And what u copied and pasted was in response to this by VAA:

"I refer to brands because rather than you and Macroof I have vast experience of what is out there in the World market, not just your little corner, epdm is a lot more than Firestone and Carlile despite what you have been brainwashed by their salesmen. I am not a saleman, far from it, but I have installed at some stage just about every product that you can put on a roof that there is, except Polyurea and SPF.

You scissormen ( what torchers down here call rubber installers) are very narrowminded, have you ever installed Carliles material? if you have then you will know that its different than Firestone.

Are all Bostonians arrogant bastards or is it just you and Mac?"

--- so, like I sd I did respond in kind when attacked.

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Flaunt Jed?

How did I flaunt them, they were not initially mentioned or brought up by me, but rather you, or your way of trying to have me verify my credibility!

You asked me twice for them.

Not Inherited at all, I've been doing this for a very long time, I know what it entails to earn them, never due to one person, but a collective all following the same game plan.

And insolence, and arrogance?? are you the pot and the kettle?? You have offered nothing constructive on this thread at all, all you've done was insult. I've offered reasoning behind my thoughts regarding the threads topic. Where are yours? Like I stated before, Vaa and I may disagree, but I respect the fact that at least he is debating mostly the topic, and defending his position. >>>

yup that is about when we started to do in en mass. About 15 years ago. Not 100% sure of the exact date but it was early 90's.

I think it is a huge improvement over the splice adhesive, to much room for worker error with the black glue IMO >>>

When you're born on third base with the bases loaded and they walk the batter, you cross the same plate as the grand slammer does, but some of us still know the difference between the two.>>>

lol you dont have a clue, but it is ok. Per usual, a thread has degenerated into uslessness>>>

A thread that was degeneratated by a degenerate. Mactroll.>>>

You seem to have a big mouth Jed, what are your credentials? Or do you just live in your parents basement and spend all day on the internet?>>>