Standing Seam Material.....

Any of you ever install the standing seam from Menards? I have a customer who wants a standing seam roof on a gambrel barn house. He wants to use Menards brand but I am concerned about getting all the trim parts that are needed.

Any of you put standing seam on a gambrel roof......what do you use for transition where 24/12 and 4/12 come together?

I hate metal but could use the work.....

Thanks!

It is going to be very thin and will have a tendancy to oil can badly. Is it standing seam or the pole barn metal that you screw down?

OS, They want to use the Lifetime Standing seam....with hidden fastners....16" panels. The house is shingled at this time but is going to be torn off and re-decked. Thank You.

Any info you have to offer would be greatly appreciated! I have done maybe 2 or 3 standing seam roofs.....but I get so many people wanting metal that I think I am going to have to learn it.

Thanks again!

Randy

get it from Bradco,use a z channel at the changes,I don`t have pics of it ,but I`m sure Tinner does,check his site at albertsroofing.com ,or maybe Copperman has some pics (??)

I have no pictures. I don't do machine made standing seam roofs . I do old school tinsmithing. But as I understand it they make a transition flashing from one pitch to the other. It has to be custom made to the pitch you are dealing with. I also have seen were the seam is cut at the transition and a patch is attached over the cut. I don't like that, it seam to me to be a fail point.http://www.magicmetalsinc.com/ezsnapguide.pdf

When did Menards start carrying a Satnding Seam product? All I am aware of is a Snap Loc (Pro Lock?) panel and an Ag panel.

Learn something new everyday. Time to get up dated

Twill....Well, I think Snap Loc is what we are referring to as standing seam.....can a standing seam not be a Snap Loc like this?

http://www.archmetalroof.com/instaloc.html

BTW.........I am suggesting the customer use a brand from Bradco or Reese, I just hate Menards materials.

Randy, how long are the panels? If they are really long, you may want to have them made on site. If you go to the web sites of the different panel manufactures, you can see their different details for that kind of stuff. Where are you located? You may try oldworlddistributors.com for some ideas. They are good people!

OS.....Our longest panel on the entire job will be 12 foot. I am in central Indiana.

I clip the tops, box fold the ends. TO attach an apron, I use 8" cleats at the point I want the apron to terminate. The cleats are folded into each fold of the finished seam, then the excess is folded back across the finished seam, then I cut off all but the last 1/2" to 3/4". After installin the apron, I pop-rivet it to those cleats. DOesn't take any extra time, nor do I get any panel penetrations.

Got ya Randy. Most people think all metal roofs are SS around here

Yeah Twill....I know what you mean, and honestly....half the "roofers" I know think that old cheap pro rib is standing seam. I think these manufactures screwed up when they made everything so the DIY homeowner could install it.

This particular customer said he wanted the "standing seam from Menards like they use on banks"......I just started laughing, the average consumer has no idea the difference between a true manual made and seamed standing seam roof in 22 ga. and a 28ga. pro rib from Lowes!! Makes me so mad.....and then you know how the contractor is "always trying to rip off the consumer" it makes it kind of hard to explain to the average Joe the difference.

That's part of the reason I have to learn to install this stuff....everyone sees it at Menards and Lowes and then that is what they want, if I dont learn it then someoen else will offer it to them.

What's a man to do......

Enough rambling from me. I'll have plenty more questions I am sure. Thanks guys!

Twill....what is your email?

twill@amarcoroofing.com

Randy,

I lost a 30yr comp shingle t/o and install to a Menards steel roof last year. The homeowner said I was beat by $300 plus the promise of the $1500 tax credit. Spoke with the H/O after the job was completed, and he was pretty happy with the finished product. Should be interesting to see how it all stands up over time.

I was very surprised at the pricing. I double checked my numbers and they were dead on, so I'm still scratching my head on that one.

The tax credit is on material only,and only a percentage of it.

Robert,

I agree. However, I'm reasonably sure someone gamed the program and "adjusted" the material prices to get where they needed to be. It'll be ok 'till some questions get asked . . .