Standing Seam Material.....

Randy,

Once you educate the homeowner about the cost of a really good standing seam roof they usually change their mind because they can't afford it.

I don't know anything about the roof from "Menards", but it sounds like a cheap one to me. Beware of the polyester paints, G60 galvanized substrates, and make sure your supplier is selling you a tested system that meets the building code.

What happens if the paint fails on this roof 5 years down the road? What does the warranty say it will do in case of failures?

If you need help with the flashing details, let me know.

bill@johnskirksey.com

Typical Menards stuff is 29 ga., maybe 28. And that is prolly Silicone Polyester unless there is something nlesser.

Not sure of the substrate. Is G-60 the lowest quality?

It can compete w/ shingles on price, sure. I think you'd have a better roof w/ shingles tho

Yeah.....Menards material is G-100, don't know if that is better than G-60 or cheaper. They do offer lifetime warranty on it, but that dont mean anything to me.

I keep hearing that metal can compete with shingles in price......I just don't see it. This job is 30 square total. Menards 28 Ga snap lock system is around $7000....materials only. My supplier bid the same system for me in 24 Ga and it was around $17,000 materials only...........that would be some pretty expensive shingles.

I am trying to get this customer to go with a Lifetime shingle instead....not having much luck though.

Wild Bill......I will be getting a hold of you for some advice on trim details on gambrel roof in standing seam.

Thanks Guys!

Randy,

There are some basic metal roof details at Englert's site but I didn't see a gambrel eave detail...It's just basically a combination of an "eave" detail and a "high side roof to wall" detail.

click on the "construction details" on the following site:

http://www.englertinc.com/roofing-panels.aspx?Page=5

Basic exposed screw down panels in 26 ga with polyester paint sell for around $70 a square around here in Alabama, which competes with shingles....These have a "galvalume" substrates which has a 25 yr warranty..... G60 and G90 substraits usually don't have warranties. The siliconized polyester paint has a longer warranty but you had better read the warranty...the fading part is usually not more than a 20 year warranty and it only offers replacement of the materials. It does not cover the labor cost, but I don't know of any manufacturer offering that for homeowner stuff. It is offered for commercial work.

G60 and G90 refers to how many ounces of zinc it has per 10 sq ft...I think G60 has 60 ounces per 10 sq ft., and G90 has 90 ounces per 10 sq ft.... so G90 is a better product....usually G60 is a secondary product, but you can't tell the difference when it is new, but it usually has cheap paint and the edges will rust very quickly.

The commercial standing seam projects that I do have material cost usually in the $2.50 to $3.50 range per sq ft. That is for 16" wide, 24 ga galvalume with kynar 500 paint. So your 30 sq job should cost you about $7,500 to 10,500 for that kind of roof.

RandyB1986 Said: Yeah.....Menards material is G-100, dont know if that is better than G-60 or cheaper. They do offer lifetime warranty on it, but that dont mean anything to me.

I keep hearing that metal can compete with shingles in price......I just dont see it. This job is 30 square total. Menards 28 Ga snap lock system is around $7000....materials only. My supplier bid the same system for me in 24 Ga and it was around $17,000 materials only...........that would be some pretty expensive shingles.

Thanks Guys!

Sorry Randy I meant the AG Panels, not the Snap Lock.... since that is what Indiana folks think a metal roof system is. I've pretty much stopped w/ explaining it to them.

I had a brief conversation w/ a steelworker at the Home Show. He sez "I just got a new roof!" I sez "Steel?" He sez "no" I sez "you don't buy your own product???" He sez.........nothing

My neighbor bought and put up a plastic yard shed. I sez "You work at US Steel and you did not buy a steel unit?" He sez "no. This was cheaper" I sez "You don't buy your own product?" He sez.....nothing