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Roofguy Said:

CIAK Said:

Roofguy Said:

CIAK Said: Keeping it simple is best for me. Doing that requires a clean mind not all cluttered with complex plans and imaginings. I make it clear most times before I leave base what is to be expected from me. Life is good.

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Dont be hard on yourself, the world needs simpletons too. :-)

A successful man is one who can lay a firm foundation with the bricks others have thrown at him. Thank you Tim a.k.a. Roofguy. ;)

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LOL It was no brick, it was simply an attempt at humor by reusing simple from your own post. But if I motivate you to do better, youre welcome. :-)

Word play..... Q. What is the difference between Snow men and Snow woman? A. Snow balls.

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Mike, Not having seen it I will offer a diagnosis anyway. My guess is that there are a couple of nail holes left by the siders when they took down their pump jacks. I'm not going to charge you for this service unless you want to hire me to come out and repair it. :laugh:

Post some pictures and we can have a contest to see who gets it right.

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Mike H: "Anybody know where I can find a good residential repair man? I've had two guys from this site try to repair a leak in my garage. The black mold spot in the drywall just keeps getting bigger every year."

So you've experienced the Hill Billies, now it's time for Ole Willie! You've gotten stuck, now it's time for Chuck!

Get out the BIG Check Book. I'll be right over! Like Red Rover! " I can fix a leak in a creek ". :laugh:

I was cracking it as a joke mostly. It's not hard to see where it's leaking, it's the fixing without a major removal of Carriage House shingles that's the problem. Thing was never flashed right to start with, and in 14 years it's never leaked bad enough to form a drip.

So, at present, I reckon I'm just trying to outlast that "Lifetime Warranty" LOL

We just finished a Carriage House job about three weeks ago. There is absolutely nothing difficult about reworking them. They come apart well, and they don't even have any laminate strip to contend with. Buy a couple of bundles and keep the leftovers for the future. I'd come out and do it for you for free but you'll have to wait for a few months. I'll talk to the boss. But in the meantime, yes, post the pics. We could all use the diversion. B)

Maybe I'll do that tomorrow. Mom had a stroke Saturday night and a little diversion would be nice.

Although, her recovery has been nothing short of miraculous.

Egg,

I will labor for you on that repair.

Now I'm starting to like the.sound of this get together.

Going back a few posts, I noticed what Tim said and have to say imo he's pretty much right on. That's another fairly good reason to take no pay if you do decide to do one for somebody. And yet I always keep a small-repair list going and get to them as time permits, in between jobs, on funky weather days, or sometimes just take a couple of days to knock them all out at once when people sense the line is not moving. I basically feel they fall into three categories for me. They are either loss-leaders, flat-out benign generosity, or experiments. And yet, still, I have a profound respect for Chuck and any other craftsman who realigns a business to make them a staple. I haven't done that yet, but there could come a time when I might. I could see doing that. At that point I would take the position that all I am selling is my time and my time has to be paid for. You figure your time and material, including driving time, and make damned sure there is also something in there to feed the company. Even a small self-owned self-operated business has to acknowledge that "the self" and "the business" are two separate but related entities. That's sometimes a hard thing to do, especially when the client has trouble distinguishing any difference between the guy in the truck with the tools and the business that sent him there. Some people won't tip a restaurant owner who waits tables. They don't get it unless it's perceived as something corporate. There is middle management and a capital account even before the business starts to pixillate in the client' head. That's their problem and the little guy(gal) often doesn't have the balls(self-esteem) to stand up for his(her) business as a separate entity. I've been like that before myself and I'm sorry to report that I am still capable of falling into it on any given day if I'm not careful. You have to ask yourself how much it would cost if I do it myself and how much would it cost if I send someone else out to do it for me. Would you send someone else out to do it for you again and again for net profit of zero? They would take longer, make more mistakes, expose you to more risk, and they would need to book you some kind of profit. That's how much it should cost. Then you can decide if you'd rather do it yourself. But you can scoop up clients with this stuff big-time. Very very effective loss-leader.

Now to Lefty...!... You and me babe! We's goan git hammered, mosey on up there t'Mike's place, black mammy that baby and butt-nail everything down real good, fall off the roof a coupla times, watch the prybar slide off and shatter the glass-topped patio table, c'llect R money an then git on down and pound a few more cold ones. Just kidding in case someone reading this doesn't know we have evolved since the early days. Would be a pleasure to collaborate and get Mike taken care of in the bargain. And we have this whole group of people here to weigh in and advise us beforehand. Like a friend of mine said to me once, "Eric, the life of an artist is its own reward." I'm in. I want to visit some ancestral homesteads in Indiana, maybe even back to Kentucky again, and Ohio isn't that far away. Just have to work out when we can do it and what tools we need if we don't bring our own trucks. Oh, and yes, Mike's servants have to bring us a lemonade and cool us with their fans if it's hot. Beth doesn't have to do a thing. She's special. No mingling with the help.

We do have to see what's involved first, though.

Sounds like Eric is Eggcited about this

Egg,

I am only 7 hours from Mike. So I have the tools and equipment covered. I only have 2 different kinds of pry bars though and I use wooden handled 16oz. straight claw hammers.

The Black Mammy is the first thing that will get loaded. Do you use a glove or trowel?

Mike H - You say that the black mouldy spot seems to get bigger every year and this has gone on for 14 years without ever seeing a visible drip.

Question: Is the garage heated or does it have heat escaping into it when it is cold outside?

If it is, my first guess would be that you are missing a piece of insulation over the black mouldy spot. Have come across this many times over the years where the cause of the black spot was where the insulation was missing, thin or some critter had got into the attic and disturbed something. Most times this was an area that was close to an exterior wall or a base of a valley or some hard to get area where the insulators could not place a bat in properly.

What happens in a situation like this is that you get a cold spot on the drywall or plywood ceiling and in the cold weather this area attracts moisture from the warm air inside the building. The surface becomes damp and attracts dirt particles from the air and they stick in this area. Over time it will look like black mould spots or mildew.

A lot of the houses built around hear had the 8" x 16" screened vents in the soffits and the insulators used to pull back the bat of insulation in this area to allow air flow into the attic. By doing this it would expose the drywall and vapour barrier in the attic and inside the house you would have a square spot of "black mouldy" drywall on the ceiling. This sometimes took years to appear depending on the interior air conditions of the home. Was more common to see in bedrooms where the air was circulating less and on the North slope of the roof. Have even seen places where blown in insulation has been blown back from wind coming in the soffit vents and exposing the ceiling drywall in the attic.

Just a random thought you might consider before you call in the yahoos with the Black mammy stuck to the pieces of broken pallet. They also tend to pee in the flower gardens also. Maybe put up an electric fence to protect the wife's flowers and vegetable garden.

Well Hot-Diggity, let's give the Advisory Staff something to sink their collective wits into.

As dad might say in times like this, if we could just find another quarter of a wit, we might be half-wits.

LOL

Look's to me like they did it wrong.

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