TPO vs Roof Restoration: NEED SOME IMPUT!
« Back To Roofers TalkI have always sold and supported CFE and other roof restorations but it seems that TPO has come along way and the price continues to drop... Never to the $95 per sq price but it has come down a lot!
theroofmedic Said: OK.... From now on Im using Word... unbelievable! Hope to meet some of you guys in Vegas next week... even you Tim maybe we can bury the hatchet over a beer.
Did you just threaten me with a hatchet? :)
I think TPO is becoming a commodity roof. It appeals to installers who aren't roofers or who don't want to roof.
TPO is to roofing what TV dinners are to Ruth's Chris. There will always be a market for those wanting a shortcut.
It does appear that TPO is taking a huge market share though. I was doing some roof scans for a small company who installs millions of dollars a year of TPO just in the DFW Metroplex.
BTW, has anyone heard or have experience with Carlisle's Fleeceback over SPF? It's supposed have warranty coverage of up to 3" hail. It sounds bullet proof (almost), but looks cost prohibitive....
No doubt TPO has taken market share. I don't know what the numbers are but I suspect SPF has also gained market share, although much less.
TPO's gains are worthy of attention but I don't worry about it too much because we operate in a very tiny niche market, and it's in my selfish best interest for it to stay that way. That said, when people discover what a great base SPF is for chopped glass, I think that will catch on too.
Still, it takes about $10,000 to get into TPO and around $100,000 to get into SPF. That barrier alone will limit growth.
That's one of the reason's TPO is so popular in states like Colorado, (no licensing).
Vaa- My reference to TPO's popularity here in Colorado has to do with lack of state contractor licensing, as opposed to manufacture licensing.
That being said; TPO affords the not-so-qualified individual/outfit to enter the flat roofing market with little, if any merit. IOW's - attend a seminar, buy a few simple tools and walla - your a contender in the flat roofing market.
Whereas in a state such as California that has authentic state licensing, prospective manufacture licensee's are subject to considerably more industry scrutiny/merit. BUR is still alive and well there as it is a viable proven cost-effect method, however requires significant capitol investment as well as authentic crafstmanship/roofing knowledge.
I know almost nothing about CFE, but I've put enough emulsion down over the years to know that it's going way outlast a garbabe piece of 45 mil TPO.
I can't imagine 22 gallon's per square, and maybe that's a misprint, dunno, didn't read whole thread. But in my book, it's a no-brainer. Run from TPO, period.












