Too Funny
« Back To Roofers TalkI don't know why I have such a over-reaction to this. It's been 2 days and I still feel my voice getting higher. I wanted to go on an comment to the article but I have no extra money to get sued.
Point One: To be accurate you need actual photos which is why EagleView uses Aerial photography not the instant satellite guess-timates. Satellites can't get close enough or the correct angles to get the pitch. No pitch, no accuracy.
Point Two: It is impossible to see the cost of tear-off, wood damage, etc. Every roof will have some sort of price change. So it won't be a 30% savings now will it?
Point Three: Did I read payment in advance from the consumer???? As a broker he is exempt from the downpayment laws?
Point Four: I need to let this go. I hate where we can just put something in print and people will believe it.
clvr83 Said: Thanks to internet and satellite technology, Viirt will be able to execute most project management functions remotely and automaticallyIm picturing a loudspeaker on a drone repeatedly saying Ariba!
Un Delay! Un Delay!
I see viirt of the type similar to Uber which is a service to hookup passengers with "independent drivers" directly, thus bypassing the evil "middleman". This is fraud on its face. To the venture capitalist, it is all the rage. Uber claims not to be a taxi company, thus not subject to all of those awful regulations imposed by the cities. The truth, which is now coming out, is that Uber takes all of the profit off the top, and the "drivers" make chicken scratch. The drivers supposedly assume all of the responsibility but do not carry the proper commercial insurance and don't make enough to assume all of the depreciation on their vehicle. And the passengers risk their lives with a total stranger. Wait for the first lawsuit for all of that crap to come tumbling down.
Did anyone read that article in one of the roofing magazines about roofing contractors and their subs? The article was about the emerging Hispanic workforce, but the interesting point made was the typical "roofing contractor" of today basically just sells the job then turns it over to an independent sub who does all of the "training" and installs. It went on to warn current contractors that unless they start training their own people, these subs will soon learn to market their services directly to homeowners. The article was written by a Hispanic, so I assume it was not racially motivated, but that is how I took it.
Another scammer if you ask me. Obviously the venture capital people don't know anything about roofing. Must be a smooth talker.
They are doing that around here now natty.....contractoring out at sub contractor rates.
Come to think of it, the Anglos do that too :dry:
I am thinking about this and I have to wonder, who carries the license, who carries the insurance, who gets the permit? Who calls for an inspection? The company that gets paid? that would be Virt I think. He will have a hard time getting a license in Florida or Michigan!
Old School Said: I am thinking about this and I have to wonder, who carries the license, who carries the insurance, who gets the permit? Who calls for an inspection? The company that gets paid? that would be Virt I think. He will have a hard time getting a license in Florida or Michigan!/
Exactly...they claim to be brokers with no responsibility, but if you are negotiating price, that makes you the contractor. Oooops, there goes that 30% savings. Govt does not know what to do with these guys- yet. We all want free expression over the internet, but with this new age of entrepreneurship and the internet, they want to make all of the money for doing not much of anything.
Just wait for the first and subsequent lawsuits.
Uber, the app, prolly has a higher dollar value than all of the legal taxi cabs in A,erica combined
Is this why Warren Buffet stays out of tech stocks? :laugh:
Anyway its called externalizing your costs. Either be a paper contractor and dump the costs of being a roofer onto a (underpaid) Sub.
Or be a roofing contractor and----VOLIA!----that $7,000 roof is a $7,000 roof and NOT the $5,500 roof that Viirk promotes
twill59 Said: Anyway its called externalizing your costs.Talk about externalizing, I just read where 50,000 vegetable pickers in Mexico are rioting over $8/day wages. They want more. So much for cheap food.
They should move to Florida where they can make $40....for a 13 hr. day, minimum.
Oh well, we throw away about 30% of the food anyway
GKRFG Said: Another scammer if you ask me. Obviously the venture capital people dont know anything about roofing. Must be a smooth talker.
They must not have had a bad roofer on their house.
natty Said: Did anyone read that article in one of the roofing magazines about roofing contractors and their subs? The article was about the emerging Hispanic workforce, but the interesting point made was the typical roofing contractor of today basically just sells the job then turns it over to an independent sub who does all of the training and installs. It went on to warn current contractors that unless they start training their own people, these subs will soon learn to market their services directly to homeowners. The article was written by a Hispanic, so I assume it was not racially motivated, but that is how I took it.
OMG.....They're about three decades late on that report.....Thank God that chit doesn't happen west of the CD, where there's generally authentic licensing, (funny how that works). Although, I've noticed a couple signs of attempts. In any event, the "sub-game" will never approach the level to which it is played in states w/o licensing.
This should prove interesting. How many times have we all had to submit CO's in writing or verbally, blowing the initial budget out of the water due to the nature of the business, ie: water damage, and unseen structural damage, etc? :huh:
That might be the basis here Frank. The contract will prolly be 6 pages long.
Or........the guarantee covers nothing, because they simply do so little for that rock bottom price. It might be a few pages thick too
How in the heck you gonna up sell when no one is there and everyone is clueless?
This sounds like a great opportunity for the "contractor" to steal someone's customers....and the neighbor's roofs too :laugh: Eagleview does not show yard signs.....at least not until the next go around of satellite photos











