Lots of " Are you hiring ? " calls

JET I now know why you say the things you do and have this visceral bile dribbling out of the corner of your mouth with the very mention of Insurance Company's . I'm going to take a risk here and make an assumption. Oh here it comes............ With your Florida State Licences being registered ( if that is the right verbiage ) I'll leave it up to the word police , in 2002 and your proclamations of having been a major roofing contractor for " i dunno " 26 yrs in Florida hmmmm. I only bring this up for a reason. Not that I really care if you have been CCC for 7 or 27 yrs. I don't. What I do question and the reason for the comments on the CCC is when did you have time to be " trained " as a company adjuster ????? ;) The worst adjuster is the rookie ." BIG MISTAKE!" who lack the fundamental information and adjusting skills to keep it a level playing field .

Whew , I guess I keep inableing with the light of truth. I have done a little investigation on the triage I heard in conversation. It was concerning inside adjusters and outside adjusters. Nothing at all to do with Triage Management Srevices. I will put this through the neseccary levels to get to the truth about this. As presented sounds predatorial . I don't know if i would go so far as to say Illeagle . I'll investigate it more closely.>>>

Just what is the reason for your disbelief ciak, apart from all the rhetoric surrounding the business......whatever that means... Jed With all the law suites being waged against the insurance company's frivolous most of them . Perhaps rhetoric wasn't the proper usage . I'm obviously not an English major and I appreciate the corrections. This industry is very aware of the attacks on it. That is one of the reasons it is not , what is for the most part leveled against it>>>

JET Said: Chucky, I dont know why you keep stirring the pot on this subject as its not very popular with the crowd here.

JET

..................largely due to the "rhetoric" ciak, as opposed to the subject I suspect.

Am heading home for the w/end tonight, so if you are up for a beer on the causeway give me a call.

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Jed Said: ..................largely due to the rhetoric ciak, as opposed to the subject I suspect.

Am heading home for the w/end tonight, so if you are up for a beer on the causeway give me a call.

So your coming to Palm Harbor Jed?>>>

Yeah I love to have a beer with you. Hey maybe we can get clearwater to join us??? I 'm off to a Rays Game tonight . Give me a call when you get in. Their are a lot of causeways here , Which one?? rhetoric A style of writing, especially on a particular subject: fiery rhetoric etc .>>>

Ciak i know you have said you have your finger on the pulse of the Insurance restoration industry - But most of the things i mention to you which are common practice here you have really no clue about - Being that you are on the inside is a good thing and maybee you can actually inform us on these type of companies -- I do not know if you have heard of Grip? i think i posted earlier about them but these guys will probably even threatin your position as well

Also curious if you know all the major Insurance companies have a preferred contractor program? And how do i get in?

I have posted before on these topics- I have had adjusters that i meet with on the site of a customer i have signed right in front of me pull out a sheet and say here is our preferred contractor list - It is advisable to call this number and have them come out to take a look - we can fax your claim directly to them and they can work directly with us. No offence to you Mike With Royalty but you have to be a preferred contractor with us for us to give you any of this info - If the home owner wants to give you a copy that is fine but we cannot.

So as i walk outside with this adjuster that i want to thump i kept my cool and asked if he disliked me or what and why he would recomend other contractors knowing i had a signed contract with the homeowner - His answer was we are required to I ask dont you think that is a little unethical he says i am just doing what our Team leader told us to do. I said how do i become a preferred contractor he says you need to be referred by our team leader.

When you go on a catastrophe are you on a team? And how are the leaders paid as a salaried employee or a sub? And How are they able to refer Contractors on behalf of the Carrier? Again i ask i know there is a way in how do i do it? I feel as if you are keeping secrets.

So we have Triage --- Grip --- And Individual Team Leaders that i have shown here to have the power to Refer any contractor of their choosing on behalf of the carrier with the carriers backing/Permission. This is how the big chasers make their money you should know this being you have your finger on the pulse.

Couple i know of off the top of my head -- Aei Aspen - Weatherguard - Cedarvalley - Tachney>>>

Middleman or whatever, what Triage is looking for, is for the local contractor, to be their sub-contractor.

Bizarra-roonie, ain't it? if you want to work, pick up the phone, call a 1-800 # and ask the boss, or the office girl maybe, if they have any work for ya.

(Don't bother asking him anything about roofing tho :laugh:)

Kind of like how the local Verizon repairmen do it. They have some sort of pad in their truck that allows them to get in touch w/ the Service Dep't. in GA or FL. They get one job done, contact Service Dep't. for another and go.

Only dif is that they are employees. They have benefits. They have a company truck etc. etc. What does Triage offer that is an improvement? Work??? :P>>>

Middleman or whatever, what Triage is looking for, is for the local contractor, to be their sub-contractor.

Bizarra-roonie, ain't it? if you want to work, pick up the phone, call a 1-800 # and ask the boss, or the office girl maybe, if they have any work for ya.

(Don't bother asking him anything about roofing tho :laugh:)

Kind of like how the local Verizon repairmen do it. They have some sort of pad in their truck that allows them to get in touch w/ the Service Dep't. in GA or FL. They get one job done, contact Service Dep't. for another and go.

Only dif is that they are employees. They have benefits. They have a company truck etc. etc. What does Triage offer that is an improvement? Work??? :P>>>

I'm not saying I know every thing . What I am learning from you guys is I haven't been on the end of the equation where as minn has been posting about losing jobs with signed contract being told nonsense in front of customers . I have my idea on how I would handle it but that is me. I'm still looking into the triage management business .>>>

CIAK Said: JET I now know why you say the things you do and have this visceral bile dribbling out of the corner of your mouth with the very mention of Insurance Companys . Im going to take a risk here and make an assumption. Oh here it comes............ With your Florida State Licences being registered ( if that is the right verbiage ) Ill leave it up to the word police , in 2002 and your proclamations of having been a major roofing contractor for i dunno 26 yrs in Florida hmmmm. I only bring this up for a reason. Not that I really care if you have been CCC for 7 or 27 yrs. I dont. What I do question and the reason for the comments on the CCC is when did you have time to be trained as a company adjuster ????? ;) The worst adjuster is the rookie . BIG MISTAKE! who lack the fundamental information and adjusting skills to keep it a level playing field .

Whew , I guess I keep inableing with the light of truth. I have done a little investigation on the triage I heard in conversation. It was concerning inside adjusters and outside adjusters. Nothing at all to do with Triage Management Srevices. I will put this through the neseccary levels to get to the truth about this. As presented sounds predatorial . I dont know if i would go so far as to say Illeagle . Ill investigate it more closely.

Seven years in Florida.......23 years in the industry, 15 states had authorized dealers for us and they each paid over $15K for the priviledge. Liberty Mutual insurance adjuster school(6 wks) was right out of college, 1974, four years before that, the Army. And your comment about "rookie" adjusters.....what a joke. I guess you're not even smart enough to know that insurance companies don't want old dogs with bad habits, casual attitudes and WAY too many "contacts" in the industry to "conspire" with. Your boy got you the job......be honest. You don't have the balls to even post up your Florida license number Chucky......that's IF you ever really had one at all. I KNOW you don't have a college degree because you could never pass basic English 101, btw, is English your first or second language?

Let's stop making this personal because it's getting boring. Stick to the facts and don't post if #1. you don't learn to spell first (ie. Illeagle - WTF is that, a sick bird? and #2. if you don't know the answer (which is 100% of the time). For the crowd here I've got an insurance case customer right now. Turned in his wind storm roofing claim over two weeks ago and STILL no adjuster has been to his home. He calls me every few days to ask what to do. I would give him Chucky's digits but he'd prolly try to get him to come down to church or somethin'. It's a classic case.......the old insurance run-around. Wear 'em out 'til they give in to ANY settlement amount, then either raise their premiums or cancel the policy altogether. The insurance industry are a bunch of criminals, pure and simple and anyone who works for them is the same IMO.

JET>>>

quote/]twill59 Said: Middleman or whatever, what Triage is looking for, is for the local contractor, to be their sub-contractor.

Bizarre-roonie, aint it? if you want to work, pick up the phone, call a 1-800 # and ask the boss, or the office girl maybe, if they have any work for ya.

(Dont bother asking him anything about roofing tho :laugh:)

Kind of like how the local Verizon repairmen do it. They have some sort of pad in their truck that allows them to get in touch w/ the Service Dept. in GA or FL. They get one job done, contact Service Dept. for another and go.

Only dif is that they are employees. They have benefits. They have a company truck etc. etc. What does Triage offer that is an improvement? Work??? :P, It would appear at best a temporary service. Making claims that fully ingrandise the temporary services offered in a perhaps not so honest way . Just an observation at this point. It appears from the outside it is another type of day labor type business>>>

Why is it when there is a storm all the help wanted adds are for salesmen?>>>

FNRUFR That is a rhetorical question. I know that Triage has the same model as Service Magic. It is not from the Insurance company's They might suggest they are connected to them " They are not " It is a highly sales oriented business . From what I can tell thus far from the comments , not a very ethical one but a very effective one. When was the last time you let another roofing contractor or re modeler steal signed contracts from you ? What I can tell right now that is what is happening . This is all alleged do to more research.>>>

Last year my daughters boy friend says some stormer says his parents house has hail damage I says cool! Have your dad call his insurance thinkin I got me a easy sale . Insurance company gives boyfriends dad a list of approved contractors who had some mexicants do the work Hears the chitty part the mexicants were taking there duce in a trash bag and left it on the roof boyfriend said he thought that they just left some trash :woohoo: poor kid!>>>