Crying for Kenndy?...Don't
« Back To Roofers TalkGerald Warner.
Senator, you were expelled from Harvard for cheating, then you left a woman to drown in your car at Chappaquiddick. What makes you think you have what it takes to be President?†That was the opening question of an interview with the late Senator Edward Kennedy during his unsuccessful bid to secure the Democratic nomination for the US presidency. It might equally now serve as an obituary.
The answer to that embarrassing question, of course, can be given in one word: entitlement. The Kennedy dynasty has long assumed a divine right to high office and privilege that accords ill with the spirit of the American constitution. We saw it yet again, earlier this year, with the attempt to shoo-in the totally inexperienced Caroline Kennedy as successor to Hillary Clinton representing New York in the Senate. It failed: the Kennedy clan, as used to be said of effete Chinese dynasties, has exhausted the mandate of heaven.
Now that Edward Kennedy has died, the liberal establishment and its media acolytes have the onions in the handkerchiefs to orchestrate a show of grief over the loss of a “great leaderâ€, as Barack Obama ludicrously termed this discredited playboy. No doubt the modernist Catholic Church in America will bury this indefatigable proponent of federally funded abortion with full honours. Despite his having led a life of extravagant degeneracy, the liberal “Catholic†caucus of the Pelosi/Biden orientation will fervently claim him as their own.
In Britain, Kennedy will be remembered for his championing of IRA terror, on the same knee-jerk anti-British principles that inspired his father, Ambassador Joseph Kennedy, to support Hitler. Yet Kennedy was awarded an honorary knighthood, just as America gave him its Presidential Medal of Freedom. What for? For being a Kennedy, of course. The Kennedy humbug was incisively deflated by a Republican bumper sticker that memorably claimed: “More people were killed at Chappaquiddick than at Three Mile Islandâ€. Another succinctly said: “No one drowned at Watergateâ€.
What is it that motivates people in so-called democratic societies to create reverential myths around hollow idols with feet of clay? America is the one country on earth where only the rich are socialists. That East Coast tribe will now indulge in false hero worship and wild hyperbole about a man who, if his surname had been anything other than Kennedy, would have provoked widespread distaste and social ostracism. This time, the liberal elite is burying not just an individual but the political aspirations of a dynasty whose objectives were incompatible with the best interests of America. >>>
Adrian Michaels.
I know it’s August but the television has been wall-to-wall Teddy Kennedy today. And I live in the UK. I can’t imagine how tiring the coverage must be in the States.
The death of a longstanding public servant is certainly a moment worth noting. The senator was also, I grant, part of a very famous family. Some in Britain might miss that the Kennedys are as close to royalty as America gets.
But Teddy Kennedy is not deserving of these tearful invocations to saintliness. He was a “great parliamentarian†because he was an elected politician for a very long time and helped to cut a lot of deals. His longevity meant that he could point to a number of legislative causes that he had helped to champion.
I might prefer a swifter epitaph, that the senator was “a long-serving recipient of nepotismâ€.
The New York Times writes: “Born to one of the wealthiest American families, Mr Kennedy spoke for the downtrodden in his public life while living the heedless private life of a playboy and a rake for many of his years. Dismissed early in his career as a lightweight and an unworthy successor to his revered brothers, he grew in stature over time by sheer longevity and by hewing to liberal principles while often crossing the partisan aisle to enact legislation.â€
We are therefore toasting his legendary ability to lunch, while glossing over the IRA, untimely drownings and so on. Let us try to mark someone’s passing with respect, yes, but proper distance and judgment. Even if it is August. >>>
Ed West.
It says much about humanity’s basic urge to be ruled by dynasties that Teddy Kennedy came anywhere near being elected president in 1980. Whatever his other qualities, his behaviour at Chappaquiddick eleven years earlier, where he might have been able to save Mary Jo Kopechne’s life but instead chose to save his own career by waiting until his blood/alcohol level reached a legal level, would have ruled out anyone else from becoming local rat catcher, let alone leader of the greatest nation on earth.
But after the murder of his brothers John and Bobby, Teddy became America’s atheling – until the public realised there was little good left to come out of that clan (with the exception of Arnold Schwarzenegger, married to Teddy’s niece Maria Shriver).
Kennedy was no doubt a dedicated servant of Congress and a passionate believer in combating poverty, but his lasting legacy on this side of the Atlantic was to poison Anglo-American relations for a generation. It’s not often said aloud but many British people when they first saw United 175 hit the World Trade Centre felt, alongside shock, pity and a sense of solidarity with the American people, also a feeling of “now you know what terrorism is like, will you stop funding the murder of our people?â€
For years Kennedy was the bang-drummer-in-chief for brainless Irish-American IRA sympathisers, dimwits who shouted “troops out of Dublin!†and sang maudlin songs from the comfort of Boston and New York, giving money for strangers 3,000 miles away to murder their neighbours.
For despite the pseudo-Marxist justifications the IRA used, which was obviously lapped up by useful idiots on both sides of the Irish Sea and across the Atlantic, their goal was always ethnic cleansing against their neighbours, the people who Americans still call “the Scots-Irishâ€.
Kennedy himself said that Ulster Protestants “should be given a decent opportunity to go back to Britainâ€, without in any way suggesting he would give Boston back to the Indians (or the English-Americans, for that matter) and return to Co. Wexford. He compared Britain’s presence in Ulster with America’s in Vietnam, and later forced Jimmy Carter to ban arm sales to the RUC, blackening the name of that tirelessly heroic band of men, each one of them worth a thousand spoiled Ivy League playboys.
Kennedy spoke out against violence in Northern Ireland while cosying up to IRA terrorists, the cause of the violence, ensuring Gerry Adams could visit the States in 1996 and celebrate that great festival of plastic patriotism and falseness, the American St Patrick’s Day Festival. He only later distanced himself from Sinn Fein/IRA after their goons murdered Robert McCartney and the American public woke up to the reality of “the boysâ€.
It’s bad manners to speak ill of the dead, before his family have got the chance to bury their loved one, but it cannot go forgotten. I’m sure Kennedy was essentially a good man and a servant of his own country, but he was certainly no friend of ours. >>>
Public servant my eye. He and all of the others in the house and senate are on the take. Some for everything and a few just getting their toes into the trough!>>>
I feel like I got an early Xmas! Yeah man, the turd is gone! :laugh:>>>
The man was the lion of the Senate. But what do male lions do. They gather a harem of females that do the work for them, then feel entitled to feast first. They kill the young of other lions and only value their own. Mysogyny, abortion, yeah, the guys a lion.>>>
While I feel it wrong to speak ill of the deceased I have to concur with what's been stated. I remember the "drowning" incident very well (I was 19 at the time) and felt this guy should be in prison instead of any political office. After watching a one hour ABC show last night I learned quite a bit more about this family. Being Irish myself I have to say that while I didn't approve of the IRA or their methods I understood their "plight" with the Brits invasion and occupation of their country. Personally I'm glad he's out of the Senate and would hope that the MA voters would put someone in there who has (at the very least) better moral judgement. RIP Kennedy.........
JET>>>
---Agree with Jed...the Kennedys lived above the law and Joe Kennedy was one of the worst. Joe was an embarrasment to FDR as ambassador to Britian during WW2. He was profiting from the war and Britain complained about him being a security risk. Today there are books written about the Kennedys that bring out some of the family dirt which has always been covered up by the media. ---If there was ever an example of God's judgment it was Joe Kennedy. There are rumors as to how he used corrupt Chicago politicians to swing Illinois's electorial votes thus winning the Whitehouse for his son John. The truth will probably never be known. It is true that he forced John to appoint Robert attorney general who then it is speculated pursued Joe's enemies. The corruption is widespread not to mention the Kennedy thirst for women. Anyway Joe who had been a powerful manipulator behind the scenes (He aspired to become President himself but his scandels prevented that) had a stroke that prevented him from talking. He remained alive bound in a wheelchair and unable to command events and lived just long enough to witness the assasination of Bobby & John. Talk about a Divine judgment! Lanny>>>
Not to argue semantics or anything, but there was no "invasion by the Brits". The island was under English rule since the beginning and granted independance in 1922. This presented a dilema because although it was majority Catholic, what to do with the Protestant population that remained loyal to the crown. Their niche was alloted and named Ulster (Northern Ireland) where they remain today. Since the thirties the "fight" has been largely about gangsterism. Blackmail, protection rackets, money lending, drugs......all under the guise of religion. I see today that Kennedy is to be buried at Arlington. Gonna take a while to get my head around that one...... Is there no respect anymore?>>>
Jed Said:I see today that Kennedy is to be buried at Arlington. Gonna take a while to get my head around that one...... Is there no respect anymore?
Finding it difficult to even dignify the figurehead with a reply, I cannot resist the urge to offer one comment to the above quote:
AMEN!! >>>
They are all lawyers and don't deserve the air they breathe. Just my opinion!>>>
Jed Said: Not to argue semantics or anything, but there was no invasion by the Brits. The island was under English rule since the beginning and granted independance in 1922. This presented a dilema because although it was majority Catholic, what to do with the Protestant population that remained loyal to the crown. Their niche was alloted and named Ulster (Northern Ireland) where they remain today. Since the thirties the fight has been largely about gangsterism. Blackmail, protection rackets, money lending, drugs......all under the guise of religion. I see today that Kennedy is to be buried at Arlington. Gonna take a while to get my head around that one...... Is there no respect anymore?
I think we were under "English rule" here.......took a war to settle it if memory serves.
JET>>>
That's right. And who is ruling us now?>>>
I'm not crying. Neither was he what I would call the worst of the bunch. I never forgave the other two Kennedy boys for what I believe they did to Marylyn Monroe. As is often the case, there is a serious disconnect between public and personal action, for people of all political persuasions. I am very skeptical of anyone who craves high position or great wealth. They come and they go. When they don't go and you can't roll them over, you have a problem. It is very very seldom you find someone in high public office who is also the soul of goodness. Anybody want to talk about Nelson Rockefeller? Joe McCarthy? I believe one of the people in public office who made the greatest strides given his background was Gov. George Wallace. At one time I truly hated him but I was saddened when he died. You know, you stumble onto a poker game where the participants are playing with poker chips that represent people and principles and you want to single out one of them as the villain? I don't get it. Never did. Using tinner's metaphor, which I have to say I really don't approve, the closest I am likely to get to relief is when we finally are rid of Dick Cheney. But what is that, really? He's just the manifest voice of a different world view from mine. No matter how much I dislike his point of view and his behavior, I will never refer to him as a turd. Just not seemly.>>>
That's the second time I have seen the name Rockerfeller come up in relation to this topic. I can't remember where...maybe another news article or something. I am not familiar with what he did.>>>
Well, we have to go back to the JFK era. In the first place, he was a Republican. In the second place, as a moderate he was considered kindly disposed to the average Joe. Thirdly, he died of a massive heart attack in the arms of his lover, causing his wife not a little embarrassment. Fourthly, he bears the name of a family renowned for its manipulation of events that affect the general public, a family name that at one time was synonymous with elitism and double-standard. I haven't checked lately, but I imagine they are firmly ensconced on the list of those private individuals who own the federal reserve banks.>>>











