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Why Insurance company's request your tax id number!!!!

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July 28, 2009 at 9:54 p.m.

Ed The Roofer

I just thought of another possibile angle to the relayed question from her friend.....

Unless the person is referring to purchasing materials with a Retailers License, which I don't think was what was being referred to.

Also, regarding sales taxes, not income taxes, when working for an entity that has Tax Exempt status, such as a Bona-fide Church, Governmet Institution, or a TIF District, (Tax Increment Financing), then no sales taxes would need to be paid nor collected on the job.

Ed>>>

July 29, 2009 at 1:47 a.m.

lanny

---A tax ID proves you are a qualified vender. Otherwise the IRS could make the insurance company treat you as an employee who then puts a large tax burden on the insurance company, the employer. This is just standard and I often have to give such an ID to escrow companies, insurance companies and other entities that pay me for work done. ---Whenever work is done there are workers who do the work. Those workers must not only pay taxes on their wages, their employer must pay FICA, unemployment, and other taxes. The workers are SOMEONE'S responsibility. The insurance company wants proof they are YOUR responsibility and not their's. Lanny>>>

July 29, 2009 at 6:21 a.m.

msshottet

ROBERT Said: To get a state license in florida you have to understand business law and have some knowledge of it to pass the state test, to ask such a question on here shows your inexperience and to say your trying to gain information on here would indicate you wont be in business long.

Yes Mr. Robert, like I said originally me and the other roofer was arguing because I no that the taxes has to be paid at the end of the year on the money you made, but he is yelling and saying it doesn't, okay!!!

And yes I did read my Contractor's manual, and read all about it, thats why I was arguing telling him he does not know what he is talking about, and he kept saying he does and he doesnt pay taxes.

You must be a genius and memorize all the books word for word, like you said you have to have some knowledge and not now everything and that would not prevent you from not passing the test, and another thing is you would be surprise how much contractors don't have a clue.

ED the roofer: he is a retailer he sells Metal and he is also does on site fabrication.>>>

July 29, 2009 at 6:57 a.m.

CIAK

mss What we are seeing here is........ Let just say Robert , because he is legitimate professional . Has built into his company model a method to deal with this . Doesn't need to remember what he has to do. If asked , would be able to show you or the proper authority or whom ever . That is the beauty of setting up a real business model. We know you are just starting out from your questions. My question to you . Do you have a business plan ? If you do why doesn't it contain a provision to handle something like this . It is every day business. What say you ??? If you can it would help in this scenario if you lose the attitude . Most everyone in here ( not all ) are professional and are willing to help . Some are worker blue colar types others professional who understand the business in side and out. Where are you on this scale ? Worker employee ...........Business owner running office ????????>>>

July 29, 2009 at 2:13 p.m.

CIAK

Another link to query ( call attention to ) http://www.articlesandhow.com/business-commerce/article1535.htm Not only if you are thinking of selling also if you are fore of mind to set up a business ;) ;)>>>

July 29, 2009 at 8:16 p.m.

Old School

What CIAK said! Most of us here are professionals, but we all started roofing at some time. We were all niave to the ways of business at first, but we kept on keeping on till we got to where we are today. You can do it too, but it is much easier if you have others like us to ask questions of. There are a lot of very smart people on this forum.

Think about what you are asking us. We will answer your questions, but aften times we can see through them because we have all been there already. If you are trying to be coy with us, you are going to be called on it right away. Ask us the real questions and you will get the right answers! Old School>>>

July 30, 2009 at 9:25 a.m.

msshottet

Thanks Old School and Ciak>>>

July 30, 2009 at 6:39 p.m.

wywoody

I've got to say I've being sitting on the sidelines looking for clues whether Msshottet is for real or not. I'm leaning not.

If you are for real, I'm sorry for doubting, but show us a little more street cred, (pardon my urban lingo). You teased with your "been roofing since I was 12". Tell us how does a 12 year old get into roofing?>>>

July 30, 2009 at 8:24 p.m.

Old School

In my case, I was working with my dad a lot sooner than that. I have movies of me on the roof at 4 1/2 years old and I could tell that I had been on the roof before that because I was working and not sitting. It is possible that she has been on the roof working since she was 12.

Msshottet Please tell us how you were on the roof at that young age, and who you were working with. If nothing else, I would be interested! I have a lot of sisters and they never went to work with us.>>>

July 31, 2009 at 7:38 a.m.

Spudder

The numbers are recorded in many places, when you apply for a new liability policy they all ways ask for your gross receipts from the year before so they can prorate you policy fee, if so happen not to tell the truth they may something or not. They just may wait until you first claim then they can bring up that you have comitted a fraud in acquiring your policy and may not pay the claim, the dept of labor wants to see what you are doing, IRS wants to know w/c wants to know, if you grossing x amount of dollars they can calculate they rough labor cost and see if you did provide a false w/c bill. Then watch out for the Black Helo's lol>>>

July 31, 2009 at 1:00 p.m.

hatrick

I have nothing to add!>>>

August 1, 2009 at 8:40 a.m.

msshottet

for wywoody:

after hurricane andrew my dad and brothers moved down here from new york, and they purchased a house in miami florida, the house was completly destroyed, when you walk in the wall were torn off, the floor was messed up, and you can look straight through the roof and see outside. They secured they house and then me and my mom and sister came down here to live from new york. shortly after my parents deceided to build a big addition on to the back of the house. He pulled a homeowner permit and did all the work himself. Thats when I became involved and curious! They dug the floor with a shovel, mixed cement by hand, poured the columns with a bucket. etc. and I use to try and mix the cement and dig the ground etc. I was so fascinated with what they were doing, after that I started going to work with my dad every chance I got Summer Vacation, Spring Break, Christmas Break, weekends etc,, to his remodeling jobs, tiling jobs, sheetrock,etc. Out of all of he jobs he did I was most fasinated with the roofs. I use to climb up the ladder, and snap he chalk lines, put down the tin tags, and nail them and put down the shingles and nail them use the bull as needed, and my favorite part was cutting the tabs to make the ridge cap and doing that. At that time we did not have a roofing gun so we were doing the entire roof with hammer and nails, and I loved it, I thought it was neat and I would go to the jobs when hot mop was being done and tile and everything, and I learned it, I learned how to do al the paperwork, I learned how to measure roofs I learned how to find pitch and add up measurements and calculate the sq.ft. etc. and I loved it, so when I was about 14yrs I said I wanted to be a roofer when I grow up. I worked in local flea markets doing hair, I went to college to study architecture, because thats what people said I should do it, and I took over 14 classes and i had a reality check i said to mysel why am i doing this this is not me i dont like architecture i am going to do what i want to do, so i changed my major to building construction. etc. Out of everything I did i liked roofing the best. I started buying my roofing books and reading them tabbing them highlighting them etc. and I took my state exam. I passed one part the first time i took it and the other part the second time i took it and about a year and a half after that i applied for my liscense and got it a week and a half later. and I am 26 years old now.

I hope this is a good enough explanation for you and every one and if not let me no what else you would like to know so you can stop wondering.

>>>

August 1, 2009 at 12:46 p.m.

Miscreant

OK kid, you're in :laugh:

.>>>

August 1, 2009 at 1:01 p.m.

Jed

I'll second that.>>>

August 1, 2009 at 1:17 p.m.

CIAK

So ya th'o't yo' uh roofer ?? Welcome aboard ta da fly world o' roofing contractor extradinaires what 'chew thinking girlfriend ? :laugh: :laugh: Whoa !! B) B)

And now roofen ticklin her fancy Rubbin her toes Muzzle ta muzzle, now anyfin' goes As dey wriggle, an' girlfriend starts ta giggle

And dey whirled an' dey twirled an' dey tangoed Singin an' jingin da jango Floatin like da heavens above It looks like roofing love

La da da da da .. and shit. :woohoo: :woohoo: You go girlfriend>>>


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