Roofing affiliations

We are NRCA we use alot of there materials for are safety training and apprenticeship program>>>

the NRCA is the best most in debth library on roofing, tested systems, and proper proceedures. Most manufactures list NRCA as a reference for application.>>>

I, for one, believe that Joining good affiliations is of excellent benefit. And definateley worth the asking price! And like everything else, the more u put into it the more you out.>>>

Mac,

That's the extent of your reply to my comments?>>>

No Mike! Sorry, that was more of a quick general reply to all (was heading out with the dog to get some ice coffe).

Will need a little more time to analyze your comments and craft an appropriate repsonse!

Mac >>>

(drinking Ice coffee now)

I agree with the perponderence of your thoughts Mike, Mac Roofing has never hired, to the best of my knowledge, illegal immigrants.

My thoughts, on the immigrant labor force are split to be honest. Now assuming we are only talking about the illegal immigrant, although I do not condone their hiring, I do have a respect for them.>>>

Being blessed with unity consciousness, difficult to maintain but often within range, I have respect for everything. Having to make decisions as much in alignment with that as possible, but on a much less lofty plane, I find that Charles Manson, for instance, needs to be kept in jail, even though that might not offer him the optimal chance for maximizing his potential.>>>

Just wundrin, does anything about this thread have to do with somebody recently acquiring a seat on the Board of Grand Poobahs of a national association?>>>

I was jw the %'s of paticipation. >>>

I am not aware of what u infer>>>

A hypothetical question of which I thought I knew the answer. Yes, no, ignore, three possibles replies, each revealing something different. I was wrong, there was a fourth possible answer. Sometimes when I see a Latka/Vic Ferrari (in reverse)situation occurring I try to understand why.>>>

wywoody,

Dad raised me to never judge a man by his mistakes, but rather by the way he corrects his mistakes. Obviously Mac never earned a lot of love around here, as he may have been least PC poster in history, aside from that David guy from Alabama or some other deep south port-o-call.

I for one am willing to accept the fact that people of strong opinions that are not afraid to voice them are EXACTLY the kind of people that advocacy groups need in positions of leadership. While a little bit of smoothness, or silver tongue characteristics never hurt, what we don't need are people that just want a seat for the perceived glory that such a position may allow them to feel, be it real or not, but have no hopes of real effectiveness.

To my knowledge, we've never had participation on this forum by a representative, employee or director of NRCA. I think it can be a good thing. I also suspect that Mac, in the spirit of professionalism and respect to the association, will strive to temper his commentary, particularly in a thread or post that is directly related to the NRCA. I have no misconceptions that he can speak officially on behalf of NRCA, being a director of the organization is not necessarily a position of authority when it comes to official policy. But he can certainly speak of his own opinions, desires and directions that he may personally hold for the organization.

No sense in stirrin' a pot that don't need stirred, unless one desires a complete shutdown of communications. Considering that Mac is in a very real position to affect the direction of the organization and our industry, it would seem foolish to do anything other than grab the opportunity presented to the RCS in his presence and run with it to the best our collective ability.>>>

Mac,

Thanks for the reply, though my comments were not specifically aimed at "illegal". That line has become so blurred by false paper, government inaction, and greed on the parts of both employer and consumer, that I think strong action is the only cure. I also think it's important to discern the differences between immigrants that are not of hispanic decent and those that are. People don't swim the Atlantic to escape to America. But our southern border, the masses that have crossed it, the social problems they are bringing, and political firestorm that it has caused are not the result of too many Irish. I think the hispanic problem needs addressed, and until organizations like NRCA start seeking solutions, instead of excuses, and being forceful in Washington, I don't see change on the horizon.>>>

PS: As the great grandson of Ukranian immigrants that spoke no english, who wanted to be here, stay here, and become Americans, I too admire immigrants. But I don't have room in sympathetic soul for those that want to come, reap, rape and send their spoils home, burn our flag in the streets, suck off of our welfare system, and expect our schools to teach their kids in spanish. Want to BECOME AMERICAN, you have my hand and my heart, if not - GO BACK HOME.>>>

I couldnt say it any better than you Mike; but thats what I was thinking. Amen brother----------------------H>>>