Conflicts between science and religion

In the past 2 years i have seen my father inlaw and my uncle on their deathbeds and they passed -- Neither of them believed in god - They believed they just died and that was it.

They were good people - But both of them had thoughts of their life playing over and over the past what they had done and was it worth it - and second thoughts about how they lived their life -- They had no belief -- I could see them and feel them struggling with belief for months while they were on their death beds.

I was at my uncles side when it was close and i asked him if he believed in god -- He nodded his head no - I says do you here voices in your head and he looked at me kinda confused and nodded yes like it was a dream -- I then told him he needs to listen to them voices they are here to lead you off -- He started to cry -- i then told him how much i appreciated him and what he has done for me my family and everyone that knew him and re assured him he has done good -- I was the last person to talk to him he passed hours later -- He had been in the hospice care for weeks hanging on -- I felt bad for telling him it was his time -- but it seemed to me he was given a chance on his death bed to come to terms with his life before moving on - Nobody knows what happens - One thing i do see is that both of these two were good people who not one day in 60 -70 years did they believe in god or go to church other then on occaison -- But they did not pass until they came to terms with their existance.

To me, science and God are coexistant, by this i mean that science proves out there is a God or Divine Being.

If today's EKG is any indication, I'll try to report back what I find on my trip there. Maybe I can then shed some light on things for you. :laugh: :laugh:

A case for science http://www.cosmosmagazine.com/news/3094/how-galileos-spy-glass-upended-science What we now know wasn't brought into existence by religion or what the Church taught as the gospel . Science in it own way has the same exact arrogance as the church . To say We know and that is it phew what a statement .

You cant explain God the way your askin Ciak,it is a personal experience WHEN you accept Him as your Lord and Saviour and walk the walk He created you to walk, He opens your eyes,mind,and soul and heart to His ways,believe me i've been around the block,i use to be one of those guys if i found out you were a believer i would ride ya like no other,i hated it, but when i accepted Him He gave me understanding,enough for each day and the more you follow Him the more things just happen,you know that you know that you know..it wasnt crap..and science..God created it,just dont put it before God..

---There is an old saying, "Seeing is believing." With God, "Believing is seeing." It comes by revelation and God gives it to those willing to bow their knee. Until then we are god. When we make him God we see. Lanny

Morality in a human being is what in my eyes is what God requires of us . To have science or religion say they have the only answer is arrogant.

CIAK Said: Morality in a human being is what in my eyes is what God requires of us . To have science or religion say they have the only answer is arrogant.

There is really only 2 things the Lord requires of ya 1)Love the Lord with all your heart soul and mind 2)Love your nieghbor as yourself.

The answer your looking for can only be acomplished the day you accept Him into your life as your Lord and Saviour and i know that from experience,but hey,if i'm wrong whats it gonna hurt ya,,,but if its true :S

O Kage don't you mean 3 1John 2:17 ...He that does the will of God remains forever. To remain in God's love requires more then believing. Evan the Demons believe. James 2:18-23. Faith without works means nothing to God AS the Bible teaches.

It starts with believe and when you follow Him He does the rest..

And when you accept Him as your Lord and Saviour and walk the walk He created you to walk you ARE doing His will..

What is the walk? There my friend is where most people fail. Jesus while on earth, gave instructions as how we are to walk and what we are to DO. One was to keep away from pagan religion and false god's. Is your worship free from contamination of false religion? If you or your kids are out for Halloween tonight, your worship is contaminated. Most religions do teach that a person should not lie or steal, and so forth. But is that sufficient? Consider this,Would you be happy to drink a glass of poisoned water because someone assured you that most of what you were getting was water? 2 Cor. 11:14, 15: “Satan himself keeps transforming himself into an angel of light. It is therefore nothing great if his ministers also keep transforming themselves into ministers of righteousness.” Here we are cautioned that not everything that originates with Satan may appear hideous. One of his chief methods of deceiving mankind has been false religion of all kinds, to some of which he gives a righteous appearance.

Yes we do screw up but thats were Gods Mercy,Grace and Forgiveness comes into play annd thats why He sent His only son and when we screw up and are truly repentant we are forgivin,God does not love us any less or more because we screw up or because were real good,and walkin the walk is between you and Him but you need to make sure it is in line with His word,and also He did not say keep away from all the evil in the world He said not to worship it or put it before Him,if we keep away how would ya witness?

MODERN-DAY religion is, for the most part, very much a part of the world, so it shares in the world’s celebrations and reflects its nationalistic spirit. Its clergy often acknowledge that fact, and many of them like it that way. In sharp contrast, Jesus said of his true followers: “They are no part of the world, just as I am no part of the world.”—John 17:16. To be no part of the world, they had to be no part of religious systems that were deeply involved in the affairs of the world and that had absorbed doctrines and customs from ancient Babylon, the longtime enemy of true worship.Today known as Babylon the Great SEE REVELATION 18 After these things I saw another angel descending from heaven, with great authority; and the earth was lighted up from his glory. 2 And he cried out with a strong voice, saying: “She has fallen! Babylon the Great has fallen, and she has become a dwelling place of demons and a lurking place of every unclean exhalation and a lurking place of every unclean and hated bird! 3 For because of the wine of the anger of her fornication all the nations have fallen [victim], and the kings of the earth committed fornication with her, and the traveling merchants of the earth became rich due to the power of her shameless luxury.” 4 And I heard another voice out of heaven say: “Get out of her, my people, if YOU do not want to share with her in her sins, and if YOU do not want to receive part of her plagues. 5 For her sins have massed together clear up to heaven, and God has called her acts of injustice to mind.

1 john 2:15,do not love the world should not be read as an utter rejection of the world,for "God....loved the world" (john3:16),Rather,John warns against DEVOTION to a world system that is opposed God.