Another solder-less up stand

Little overhang with standing seam.

Sweeps on the up stands, we could have used pinch seams but went with the sweep for look.

#nosolder

That's an interesting look. How far do you want the siding to lap down?

It's about 3" of full lap, then the seam comes through the siding. I've got some finished pics intersecting into slate siding I'll show them

Nice

here is the same type of seam intersecting slate siding. the lap siding just notches the standing part and fully laps the flattened part of the seam. you usually get about 1.5-3" exposure on the wall portion of the pans with this tall seam

Thats a European style or look. A bit bulky in my opinion but nice work all the same. When ever you can fold instead of cutting is better any day of the week.

copper, i have experimented with making the seams smaller but need a custom iron to get through the sweep. someday!

This is how I do it. Takes a little set up but is worth the effort

Just magnificent. I remember these pics from long ago. Actually, I have copies of them in one of my better-practices files (which I would never use without your permission except for my own perusal.)

By the way, X, you can get all kinds of irons, used irons, every shape and size on eBay. At least you could not long ago. I think I paid fifty bucks for about twenty of them a year ago. Somebody's grandpa's stuff. Really first-rate pieces. They're beautiful in their own right even if you never, ever use them for production. Some of them were obviously ground into some very strange shapes to get into some very tricky corners. fwiw.

Copperman: that method is awesome for new const.

If you have to lay the pan to the sheeting though without a build-out, a sweep seam or a pinched seam can carry the double lock through the tranny without solder or sealant.

Eric: where were you looking on ebay, I'm striking out. maybe the antique dealers call it something else

I'll see what I can find this weekend. I'll also check with an associate who spotted a ton of them for me. Can you use Craigslist from where you are? We pick up great stuff there, too. It may be one of those things you can get day in/day out until you just happen to need one right now... I'll try to post something for you in the next day or two.

I got two hammer-style hand irons as well, not used and requiring my own handles, from a gutter supply place. I love those and use them often also. I'll look up a link for them, too. Can't do anything more tonight.

This is what I got right now on a site for new, a Craigslist site, and eBay:

https://www.guttersupply.com/p-soldering-tool-kit-hand-irons.gstml

http://monterey.craigslist.org/tls/4759151879.html

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=soldering+irons&_from=R40&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xsheet+metal+soldering+irons.TRS0&_nkw=sheet+metal+soldering+irons&_sacat=0

The ebay site was bulky so I refined the search with sheet metal soldering irons and several deals came up. Cheap.

Eric I thought you were talking about irons like this: http://www.roofing-tools.com/stubai-cobble-c2x9251607

I used to pick up old soldering coppers like that when I DID solder, but I used an express torch for the rare occasions I do have to solder.

These are all done with a filet seam and double lock, no solder.

I'm looking for antique irons for this kind of work:

http://youtu.be/dli0ZdYjCkQ

That last link doesn't come up for me but repost it; I'm curious now. Clearly misunderstood what you were looking for. I've got a coffee table you'd like to see. It was made for me by a locally famous (and internationally known if not famous) wood sculptor. Clads portions with copper. Doesn't solder anything, and although he doesn't utilize the complicated folds you are using, I find his work quite beautiful. I'll take a couple of pictures for your gratification and post them later.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dli0ZdYjCkQ&feature=youtu.be

That video blew me away.

Well maybe it was the 28 degree temps w/ 25mph winds, but regardless, I'm amazed.